The 'Fisher' Family

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James Fisher
1837 - 1912
 

Husband:

James Fisher  

Born:

1837 Mattishall, Mitford - Sep quarter (13 167)
Died: Jul 04, 1912 Mitford - Sep qaurter (4b 243) age 75
Buried: Jul 05 1912 Mattishall Cemetery, Burgh Lane - Plot P41
Parents James Fisher (1795)
&
Ann Isbel (1793)

There is a mistake in the Burial Book - under the same plot as James (P41) is also registered Clare Fisher (1832) who died in 1909 and his wife Mary Ann Fisher who died in 1915.

 

Wife:

Alice Jane Pitcher <<<<< For more on Alice click her name

Born:

abt 1843 Mealtley, York , Yorkshire
Died: 1882 Mattishall, Mitford - Jun quarter (4b 170) age 39
Buried: 1882 All Saints Churchyard
Parents John Pitcher (1815)
&
Rebecca Brown
The reason why James and Alice were not buried together - All Saints Churchyard had become full and the last burial took place there in April 1889. All burials were then either at Burgh Lane Cemetery or St Peter's Churchyard Mattishall Burgh.
 

Married:

Oct 25. 1862 Mitford - Dec quater (4b 756)

Children:

Name:

Date of birth:
Birth Place:
Walter Fisher - more Oct 19, 1863 Shipdham, Mitford - Dec quarter (4b 265)
John Fisher - more 1865 Mattishall, Mitford - Dec quarter (4b 245)
Nero Fisher - more 1868 Mattishall, Mitford - Mar qaurter (4b 277)
William Edward Fisher - more 1870 Mattishall, Mitford - Jun quarter (4b 270)
Alice Rebecca Fisher - more 1871 Mattishall, Mitford - Sep qaurter (4b 253)
George Fisher - See Menu 1873 Mattishall, Mitford - Mar quarter (4b 271)
Ada Fisher - more 1875 Mattishall, Mitford - Mar quarter (4b 265)
Clara - born Katie Fisher?- more 1876 Mattishall , Mitford - Jun quater (4b 259)
Marshall Fisher - more May 03, 1878 Mattishall, Mitford - Jun quarter (4b 274)
Richander Fisher - more June 20, 1880 Mattishall, Mitford - Sep qaurter (4b 271)

 

 

File Information:


1837: Baptism record
James Fisher - Baptised Sep 17, 1837 - All Saints Church Mattishall - Entry 768
Son of James Fisher a Labourer and his wife Mary Flegg

1837: Birth record - James Fisher at Mattishall, Mitford - Sep quarter (13 167)

1851: Census - Welgate Mattishall
James Fisher - Head - age 54 (1797) - Pauper Ag Lab Mattishall-NFK
Mary Fisher - Wife - age 57 - Gressenhall-NFK
James Fisher - Son - age 13 - Ag Lab Mattishall-NFK

1861: Census - Welgate Mattishall
James Fisher - Head - age 63 (1798) - Agricultural Labourer Norfolk - Mattishall
Mary Fisher - Wife - age 67 (1794) - Agricultural Labourers Wife Norfolk - Gressenhall
James Fisher - Son - single - age 23 (1838) Agricultural Labourer - Norfolk - Mattishall

Is this James's mother?
1861:
Death record - Mary Fisher at Mitford - Dec quarter (4b 195) no age given

1862: Mattishall Marriage Reg: James Fisher of full age, bachelor, Labourer of Mattishall son of James Fisher, Labourer & Alice Jane Pitcher of full age, spinster of Mattishall dau of John Pitcher, Labourer were married 25th October by me J.M. Du Port. James and Alice made their marks. Witnesses: Charles Robson and Mary Robson who made their marks.

1862: Marriege record - James Fisher married Alice Jane Pitcher at Mitford - Dec qaurter (4b 756)

Is this James's father?
1867: Death record - James Fisher at Mitford - Jun quarter (4b 180) age 71 (1796)

1871: Census : 22 Badley Moor Mattishall
James Fisher - Head - age 33 (1838) - Ag Lab Norfolk - Mattishall
Ann Fisher - Wife - age 28 - Yorkshire - Alice appears to have changed her name
Walter Fisher - Son - age 7 - Scholar Norfolk - Mattishall
John Fisher - Son - age 5 - Scholar Norfolk - Mattishall
Nero Fisher - Son - age 3 - Norfolk - Mattishall

This is another possibility of James's mother's death
1874: Death record - Mary Fisher at Mitford - Dec quarter (4b 197) age 78 (1796)

1881: Census - 41 Dereham Rd Mattishall
James Fisher - Head - age 43 (1838) - Ag Lab - Mattishall, Norfolk,
Alice J Fisher - Wife - age 38 (1843) - Mealtley, York
Walter Fisher - Son - age 17 - Ag Lab- Shipdham, Norfolk
John Fisher - Son - age 15 - Ag Lab - Mattishall, Norfolk
Nero Fisher - Son - age 13 - Scholar - Mattishall, Norfolk
Alice Fisher - Dau - age 9 - Scholar - Mattishall, Norfolk
George Fisher - Son - age 8 (1873) - Scholar - Mattishall, Norfolk
Ada Fisher - Dau - age 6 - Scholar - Mattishall, Norfolk
Caler Fisher - Dau - age 5 - Scholar - Mattishall, Norfolk
Marshall Fisher - Son - age 2 - Mattishall, Norfolk
Richander Fisher - Dau - age 9m - Mattishall, Norfolk

1882: Death record - Alice Fisher at Mitford - Jun quarter (4b 170) age 39
1882: Mattishall Burial Reg: Alice Fisher buried 24th June, aged 39 years

1891: Census 8 Dereham Rd Mattishall
James Fisher - Head - Widower - age 50 - Ag Lab(Em'ee) Norfolk - Mattishall
George Fisher - Son - age 17 - Ag Lab(Em'ee) Norfolk - Mattishall
Marshall Fisher - Son - age 12 - Scholar - Norfolk - Mattishall

1901: Census - Dereham Road, Mattishall
James Fisher - Head - Widower - age 63 - Agr Laborer - Mattishall, Norfolk
Richanda Fisher - Dau - Single - age 20 - Mattishall, Norfolk

1911: Census - Dereham Road Mattishall, East Derehaml
Frederick Gunton - Head - age 30 - Gardener Market - Mattishall Norfolk
Richenda Gunton - Wife - age 31 - Mattishall Norfolk
Arthur Gunton - Son - age 4 - School - Mattishall Norfolk
Clara Gunton - Dau - age 2 - Mattishall Norfolk
James Fisher - Fatherinlaw - Widower - age 71 - Old Age Pensioner - Mattishall Norfolk

1912: Death record - James Fisher at Mitford - Sep qaurter (4b 243) age 75

1912: Mattishall United Reform Church Minute Book - Mr Fisher died 4th July, aged 76, buried Mattishall Cemetery
James and his family were members of the Old Moor Chapel on Badley Moor which was later moved to the Independant, Congregational & now the United Reformed Church in Welgate, Mattishall.

 

More on Alice Jane Pitcher

According to Pitcher family files Alice's parents met whilst they were both in service in a large farm at Shipdham. When they first married they lived for a while in Yorkshire but soon returned to Shipdham where Alices's father (John) worked on the same farm as he did as a boy. About 1863 missionaries visited the area and it was known that John and his wife Rebecca would welcome them into their home. Thier daughter Elizabeth (then aged 7) for many years had suffered with fits and during one of the visits the Elders re-baptised the whole family and from then Elizabeth never had another fit. They considered this a special blessing from the Lord that she was healed of this serious affliction. After this their home became the headquarters for the Mormons in Shipdham. The Mormon meetings were held at their home. Missionaries, when they came to town, came to Pitchers first and were always made welcome. Many a missionary was made to rejoice in the splendid cooking of sister Pitcher.
In 1869 Alices parents decided to move to Utah America, John had no funds and it is recorded that the Mormans loaned him the money in a lump sum to pay the fare of himself and wife and his family including two daughters in-laws with their babies. The total sum is thought to have been £122 and 5shillings.

The two daughter in-laws were Susan Everett who married Edward Pitcher in the Dec quarter of 1867 and Rebecca Browne who married John Pitcher in the same year, Dec quarter 1867.

They sold their furniture and took passage on the steamship Manhattan which carried them over the ocean. If not the first, they were among the very first emigrants to arrive in Utah who came on the railroad. When they came to Ogden there was no depot as yet. Their trunks were dumped out on the river bank and they got their first glimpse of Utah and the Mormons in Utah. It was late September when they came, and they went immediately to Farmington. During the first winter they made their home with the Ladle family. Mrs. Ladle and Mrs. Pitcher were sisters (this could be Jane Ladle nee Browne (1823) who married James Ladle (1812)**). The following spring they moved to Smithfield, in Cache Valley. Before leaving however they returned to Salt Lake and went through the endowment house. Their first home was a little log hut which belonged to John Peacock, situated on second west street, a little more than a block north of the creek which runs down the middle of town. After spending a year in this place they built a log house of their own, one block north and one block east of the 0. S. L. depot, on the south west corner of the block. Grandfather pre-emptied some government land west of Smithfield and continued in the business of farming and stock raising until he retired a few years before his death.

Information taken from the Pitcher family files - Read more of this fascinating story at:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~raymondfamily/johnpitcher.html

** The Ladle family story can be found here:-
http://www.mendonutah.net/history/personal/ladle_john_susanna.htm

Alice's Father
John Pitcher
born Mar 07, 1816 at Shipdham
Baptised April 21, 1816 - Son of Edward Pitcher a Farmer and his wife Elizabeth
Entry: 169

1837: Oct - John Pitcher married Rebecca Brown at Shipdham, Norfolk, UK
Above information taken from an American website but no record found of this marriage at Shipdham
No mention in Church Banns book either!!
Rebecca Brown was the daughter of James Brown a Labourer and his wife Elizabeth Wright of East Wretham, Norfolk

1851: Census - Larges Cottages, Shipdham Mitford, Norfolk
John Pitcher - Head - age 36 (1815) - Ag Lab Shipdham-Nfk
Rebecca Pitcher - Wife - age 34 (1817) - Ag Lab Wife Hockham-Nfk
James Pitcher - Son - age 13 - Errand Boy Tickhill-Yks
Mary Pitcher - Dau - age 12 - Scholar Maltby-Yks
Edward Pitcher - Son - age 10 - Scholar Maltby-Yks - * see below
Alice J. Pitcher - Dau - age 8 (1843) - Scholar Maltby-Yks
John Pitcher - Son - age 6 - Shipdham-Nfk
George Picher - Son - age 1 - Shipdham-Nfk

Records show that John and Rebecca lived in Yorkshire for approx 6-8 years as their first four children were born there.

1861: Census - Watery Lane Shipdham -Norfolk
John Pitcher - Head - age 46 - Ag Lab Norfolk - Shipdham
Rebecca Pitcher - Wife - age 44 - Norfolk - Wretham
John Pitcher - Son - age 16 - Ag Lab Norfolk - Shipdham - * see below
George Pitcher - Son - age 11 - Ag Lab Norfolk - Shipdham
William Pitcher - Son - age 10 - Cow Keeper Norfolk - Shipdham
Elizabeth Pitcher - Dau - age 5 - Norfolk - Shipdham
James Pitcher - Son - age 10m - Norfolk - Shipdham

* John Pitcher a Bachelor and Labourer married Rebecca Browne a Spinster on Dec 25 1867 at All Saints Church Shipham Mitford - Dec quarter (4b 754) - entry 267 - Father of groom: John Pitcher a Labourer - Father of Bride: William Brown a Labourer - Witness: Anne Browne and William Henry Tench.

* Edward Pitcher a Bachelor and Labourer married Susan Everett a Spinster on Oct 05 1867 at All Saints Church Shipdham Mitford - Dec quarter (4b 751) - entry 262 - Father of groom: John Pitcher a Labourer - Father of Bride: John Everett a Carpenter - Witness: Rebecca Browne and William Henry Tench.

Alice was living at Mattishall
1861:
Census - Hall Green Mattishall -Norfolk
Matthew Yule - Head - age 36 - Farmer 348 Ac Emp 11men 6boys Norfolk - Yaxham
Sarah Yules - Wife - age 38 - Norfolk - Shipdham
Anne Evans - Serv - age 18 - Dairy Maid Norfolk - Shipdham
Alice Pitcher - Serv - age 18 - House Maid Yorkshire - Hull
Samuel Symonds - Serv - Widower - age 60 - Carter Norfolk - Mattishall Burgh

1862: Marriege record - Alice Jane Pitcher married James Fisher at Mitford - Dec qaurter (4b 756)

1882: Alice Died age 39 and is buried in All Saints Churchyard Mattishall, Mitford - Jun quarter (4b 170)

John Pitcher died May 03 1896 at Smithfield, Cache, Utah (Age 80 years)
Rebecca Pitcher died May 13, 1892 at Smithfield, Cache, Utah Age 75 years)

It appears that Alice's son Walter also went to America. It was defiantly after 1881 as he was recorded in the census.

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Walter Fisher (1863)

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Some of the following information was kindly supplied by Robert Raymond of America
Sometime after 1881 Walter went to America. On March 26. 1884 Walter was baptised into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. It is not known whether he was baptised first or immigrated first. However, 19th century converts were encouraged to move to the then Utah Territory in the United States. It may well be that he immigrated then coverted as according to American census record he gave three dates of his migration 1920 census (1876) 1910 census (1879) and 1930 (1883). We know the first two to be untrue so 1883 seems the correct date. Walter became a naturalized U.S. citizen. If they could be located, his naturalization papers may give original immigration date and ship's name.
We can only assume that after his mother's death Walter when to stay with her family (The Pitcher's) in Utah this is confirmed in a picture of a Pitcher family gathering where Walter, his wife (Rachel) and children are clearly seen.
He returned to England, probably as a missionary, and returned to the United States in 1914.
There is a picture of the two brother together with two other men that could also be related but it is unclear if the picture was taken here in England or in America.

Walter Fisher - Born in Shipdham, Norf, England on 19 Oct 1863 to James Fisher and Alice Jane Pitcher. Walter married Rachel Roberts and had 6 children. He passed away on 22 Nov 1930 in Smithfield, Cache, Utah, USA. His death certificate tells us that he died of chronic myocarditis and endocarditis. Diabetes was a contributing factor.

Walter Fisher married Rachel Roberts Oct 16, 1895 at Hyde Park,Cache,Utah
Walter and Rachel had Children:


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John Fisher (1865)

John Fisher Baptised Nov 11, 1866 at All Saints Church Mattishall - Entry 669
Son of James Fisher a Labourer and his wife Alice Jane
Baptised with his brother Walter

No further information - Did John go to America with his brother Walter?

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William Edward Fisher (1870)

William Edward Fisher was baptised Jul 09, 1870 at All Saints Church Mattishall - Entry 738
Son of James Fisher a Labourer and his wife Alice Jane

William Edward Fisher died 1870 and was buried Jul 14, 1870 at All Saints Churchyard Mattishall - infant
1870: Death record - William Edward Fisher at Mitford - Sep quarter (4b 183) - age 0

 

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Nero Fisher (1868)

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It is known that Nero's brother Walter (above) returned to England from America to carry out missionary work sometime before 1914. Did he encourage Nero to travel back with him as it is recorded that Nero joined the Canadian Army 1915-1918 and fought in the First World War where he was a corporal. Nero's son Leslie Marshall Fisher (1898) also enlisted in the Canadian Military in 1915, he lost his left arm in the war and was discharged before the war ended.
There is a picture of the four brothers taken in England about 1913 - See Walter Fisher (1863) main menu (scroll down page).

Julia and Nero whent to Canada for a few years, along with their eldest Leslie, It is not clear if Sidney went but from all account he didn't. Nero and Julia went back to England after WW1, but Leslie stayed in Toronto and married a girl from Greenbrooke Ontario and had a family, Leslie returned to England in the early ''60''s. His oldest son William Leslie Fisher was career army and ended up in British Columbia - His daughter lived in Brentwood Bay on Vancouver Island, about 15 miles north of Victoria. William Leslie Fisher died July 01, 2007 age 83
1975: Leslie Marshall Fisher died at Norwich - age 77

 

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Alice Rebecca Fisher (1871)

Alice Rebecca Fisher batised Dec 08, 1872 at All Saints Church Mattishall - Entry 803
Daughter of James Fisher a Labourer and his wife Alice Jane

Married Smith?

No further information

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George Fisher (1873) - See Left Menu

George Fisher Baptised June 23, 1873 at All Saints Church Mattishall - prob privately - Entry 813
Son of James Fisher a Labourer and his wife Alice Jane

George Fisher Baptised Dec 14, 1873 at All Saints Church Mattishall - Entry 835
Son of James Fisher a Labourer and his wife Alice Jane

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Ada Fisher (1875)

Addie Fisher Baptised April 09, 1876 at All Saints Church Mattishall - Etry 883
Daughter of James Fisher a Labourer and his wife Alice Jane
Baptised with her sister Katie

1891: Census - Shop Well Green St East Tuddenham
James Neave - Head - age 28 - Grocer Draper(Em'er) Norfolk - Wymondham
Anna E Neave - Wife - age 29 - Norfolk - Barnham Broom
Albert A Neave - Son - age 5 - Scholar Norfolk - Norwich
Kate E Neave - Dua - age 3 - Norfolk - Norwich
Bessie E Neave - Dau - age 3m -Norfolk - East Tuddenham
Herbet J Neave - Brother - age 17 - Grocers Assistnt(Em'ee) Norfolk - Wymondham
Ada Fisher - Servant - age 16 - Gen Servant(Em'ee) Norfolk - Mattishall

No further information

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Clara'Katie Fisher 1876)

Katie Fisher Baptised April 09, 1876 at All Saints Church Mattishall - Entry 884
Daughter of James Fisher a Labourer and his wife Alice Jane
Baptised with her sister Ada

Married Murry?

No further information

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Marshall Fisher (1878)

Martial Fisher Baptised Aug 11, 1878 at All Saints Church Mattishall - born May 03,1878 - Entry 943
Son of James Fisher Labourer and his wife Alice Jane

1900: - Marriage record Marshall Fisher married Martha Lousia Vince at Mitford - Mar quarter (4b 409)

1900: Mattishall Marriage Reg: Marshall Fisher, aged 21, bachelor, labourer of Mattishall son of James Fisher, labourer and Martha Louisa Vince, aged 22, spinster of Mattishall dau of William Vince, ex-P.C. were married 7th March after banns by me E. M. Madoc-Jones. Marshall and Martha both signed. Witnesses: William Vince & Mary Elizabeth Neave who both signed.

1901: Census - Marshall and Lousia were living at Mattishall - no further information

1911: Census - Marshall and Lousia were living at Mattishall - no further information

1925: - Mattishall Cong Ch Minute Book - Mrs Louisa Martha Fisher age 47 buried 24th October in the cemetery at Mattishall, after service in the Lecture Hall - Pastor. - This could be Marshall's wife

1959: Death record - Marshall Fisher at Chippenham - Mar quarter ( 7c 505) age 82 ?

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Richenda Fisher (1880)

Richanda Fisher Baptised Oct 10, 1880 at All Saints Church Mattishall - born June 20, 1880 - Entry 985
Daughter of James Fisher a Labourer and his wife Alice Jane

1881: Census - 41 Dereham Rd Mattishall
James Fisher - Head - age 43 (1838) - Ag Lab - Mattishall, Norfolk,
Alice J Fisher - Wife - age 38 (1843) - Mealtley, York
Walter Fisher - Son - age 17 - Ag Lab- Shipdham, Norfolk
John Fisher - Son - age 15 - Ag Lab - Mattishall, Norfolk
Nero Fisher - Son - age 13 - Scholar - Mattishall, Norfolk
Alice Fisher - Dau - age 9 - Scholar - Mattishall, Norfolk
George Fisher - Son - age 8 (1873) - Scholar - Mattishall, Norfolk
Ada Fisher - Dau - age 6 - Scholar - Mattishall, Norfolk
Caler Fisher - Dau - age 5 - Scholar - Mattishall, Norfolk
Marshall Fisher - Son - age 2 - Mattishall, Norfolk
Richander Fisher - Dau - age 9m - Mattishall, Norfolk

1891: Census - New Road Wells -Norfolk
Richard Filby - Head - age 71 - Groom(Em'ee) Norfolk - Letton
Maria Filby - Wife - age 66 - Mattishall
Maria Filby - Dau - single - age 30 - Mattishall
Richanda Filby - Niece - age 10 - Scholar Norfolk - Mattishall
Richanda (above) is really Richanda Fisher daughter of James Fisher (1837) and Alice Jame Pitcher

1906: Marriage record - Richenda Fisher married Frederick Gunton at Wandsworth - Jun quarter (1d 1095)

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